[GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord

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It was a sunny and hot afternoon and we sit down, at the end of a convention,between the fumes of lard-fried pork filled with pig meat, to play Dark Age. International crew, Italian and German, so nobody was speaking his mothertongue and we were all males, Moreno Roncucci, Francesco Berni, Matteo Casali, Tim Franzke and myself. Moreno didn't stay until the end.
We decided to go for a traditionally MC-ed game, mostly out of fear, and because I was more than willing to MCing.

The game has been... insightful.
I've felt like different muscle stretching than the one I usually use in PbtA games. Maybe it was the setting and the fiction that were my bread and butter so I was able to immerse in it fully without effort, or maybe something else.
The Right moves are majestically thematic and effective. They allow you to glue your game to the setting, to the thematic choices and allow for a quicker snowball effect than before. Now literally whatever you do has mechanic and fictional consequences.

The playtest package has a lot of stuff in it, a lot of paper. Next time I'm going to remember to print the Holdings and Households sheet behind the character sheet, and maybe organize all the material I'll need in a small binder. In fifteen minutes we had the table full of slips of papers, maps, people details and so on. That's not necessarly a bad stuff, I like to play with paper, reorganize it, allow it to form patterns, but I need a way to sort it.
And to print several copies of the People Creation sheet.

Stronghold creation has been a blast. On the long side, but a really cool way to brainstorm and have the collective creative juices starting run. Since just talking would had slowed too much (Italians, am I right?), I often ask to do thing like choosing one option each, or cross out an option each.
It went fairly smoothy and we came out with the fortress of Wassershild (because you always have to exploit the German guy for cool names), basically a fortified raiding post strategically located at the center of a bay, connected to the mainland only by a tidal bridge.

The only doubt I have is in the What does its armory include section. Now that I'm reviewing it it seems clear that if you don't mark something it has 10 pieces, if you mark once it has 20 and if you mark twice it has 60. Am I correct? It wasn't very clear, at the table.

Another little difficulty has been to explain the concept of Household. It was clear to me (but, again, I studied these things most of my adult life, so I probably am biased) how members of a War Order could come from 16 different "families" and the concentric relationships these kind of things mean, but I had some hard time explaining it to the players.

Anyway between now and my work detailing the other people around during characters creation, we came out with the Sea-Devils, a christian(ish) warrior order/band of riders, menacing a trading town part of a bigger system of "roman/barbaric" towns and warring with a ragtag army of small tribes and clan reunited under the whip of an old enemy of their leaders, the mysterious Seleukos.

We used all the kinds of People Sheets, and I found the one with the Notables list at the bottom the most useful, but what I really need is a sheet listing the options. Creating People hase been fun and creative, but it risks to become an endevour and to stop the game too often. Having to circle the chosen options instead of writing them would be better and quicker.

The booklets have been presented only by a slightly dramatic reading of the verses, and it was very effective. Only Moreno choose to be a Sea Devil, the War Champion of the Sea Devils actually, but the other created three more people. The Troll Slayer was a woman coming from a group of clans in the far north, devoted to monster-slaying, the Dragon Herald came from a pagan village near the territory of the Sea Devil and the Paesant Beauty was a sort of indentured servant coming from a People that styled themselves as the descendants of the Kings of Old.

In the meanwhile I created three more cultures: two People to colour up my ragtag army, and a more civilized People to populate the town. Everything had a disctinctive German/Celtic/Nordic feeling, so I gave the enemy of the Sea Devils the most south-oriental name in the list, Seleukos, because I'm that cool :-P

A lot of cultures in play, a lot of differences and variations. It was very, very good. In a few minutes I had all the materials, from myself and the other player, to depict a really divise world, a colorful, varied and shifting world. I didn't take a big effort on my part: with the help of everyone I had a lot of different details, idea and broadly-but-effectively characterized cultures in play.
That's part of what I lacked in Apocalypse World, and it works very, very well.

I loved the season moves. Some of the fought, some of them prepared for the big fight incoming, the Dragon Herald and the Troll Slayed spent the Summer by celebrating with their People, gaining the Right to Enchant Someone or Something and the Right to a Magic Weapon.
Another doubt. Can anyone perform Enchantments or only those who have such Right?

We played and I really pushed for that big battle that you need, with Seleukos coming to "make peace", in an obvious rouse tohave the Sea Devils open the gates of Wassershild.

I had some indecisions on when shift from personal moves to war moves, since at least two strong personal champions where in play. The War Champion and the Troll Slayer personally attacked Seleukos' army (they were advancing on a very small tidal bridge, it wasn't totally unreasonable) and they did things like jumping over a shieldwall and beign captured. I was a little in doubt if allowing them those things or not, and if to activate Jump Into Action (because they were literally doing that), Join them in Personal Combat when they attacked the leader of the company (even if he was surrounded by is men) or call for the Battle Moves and rise the camera above personal level immediatly.
I suppose I need more experience with this kind of things. Again, it feels different from the other Apocalypse Games, I'm again on a learning curve (thank you! I needed this!).

Creating the war company was a little confusing. Not difficult per se, but there was a lot of things to move, write down, consider. I really would have needed to call a little pause in the game to do the contability stuff, but I suppose that it is another of those experience things. It's quite linear, after all, just... full of things.
Next time I'll just stop and take the opportunity to ask questions about the aspects of the War Band(s) I'm going to detail.

The only real doubt I have is on the opportunity to use the When Coming Under Attack move. The Sea Devils were lead by the Paesant Beauty, of course, but the other warband was lead by Seleukos, an NPC, and hadn't any PC in it. I rolled the dice, as the MC, because I felt that the battle would have been incomplete without the Coming Under Attack move. Was I right? It felt weird to roll dice as an MC.

When I created Seleukos' warband I was afraid I was going too far There was something like 60 people, with shieldwalls (the town joined the raiding army, out of fear), bows and cavalry, against less than 20 people lightly armed with bows and polearms.
I thought I was about to witness Seleukos trash the ground with the Sea Devils' collective ass without breaking a sweat.

I was totally wrong.

The rules for battles are wonderful and deceptive. Following them the players had the full opportunity to strike in a tactically significative way, I had the opportunity to foster new interesting twists in the narrative killing the old Sea Devils chief and realized that having stone walls surrounding your houses, reachable only by the smallest istmus is really something in this game. The fictional descriptions flowed seamlessly into values and numbers and gave us a result totally plausible and, at the same time, very exciting: the Sea Devils bloodied Seleukos' ragtag army, loose some important man but were able to defend themselves mostly tanks to their absolute advantage position.

I was surprised and delighted by that.

Things happened alongside and immediatly after the battle. The Troll Slayer slaughtered Seleukos magically-protected ass, the Dragon Herald begun some intricate religious plot while the Paesant Beauty tried to keep the Sea Devils together after the death of their leader.

It hasn't been a blasting game (good, quite fun, not memorable), we were tired and inexperienced, but it carried the promises of great games to come. I've learned something on how to present it next time, on how organize myslef to play it and I have the sensation that it will really, really change the way I look at Apocalypse games.

Thank you.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2014, 08:30:26 AM by Aetius »
Ciao, I'm Ezio, from Italy.
I'm sorry for my bad english... I'll keep studying ;-)

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Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 07:37:54 AM »
Ezio! Super cool, thank you!

-Vincent

Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 01:13:15 PM »
Glad to be helpful ^^

Any tip or insight on our doubts, from Vincent or someone else?
Ciao, I'm Ezio, from Italy.
I'm sorry for my bad english... I'll keep studying ;-)

Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 03:54:59 PM »
For me, it was a sort of "Coitus interruptus"... We had passed around two hours creating characters, peoples, and a lot of stuff....   and the guy who had driven the car to the convention shows up and says "sorry Moreno, I just learned that I have an unplanned work meeting in a few hours, we have to go now"....  I was able to roll dice exactly three times, after all that preparation work...

By the way, the hurry was the reason why my character challenged the other's champion to single combat. I had only a few minutes left and I wanted to try the single combat rules. Ezio negated my right to that so I did declare myself accursed and wronged, and did bemoan my fate. 

As I said, the preparation was very long (at least, compared to the games I am used now), but it would not be a problem with a multi-session game. It could make it difficult to play demo session at conventions, though.

Most of the preparation was straighforward, and I could simply check items on the sheets without having to ask Ezio or others about the details, but It did hit a snag when we arrived to the "household and belongings" part. Part of the reason was that we had only one sheet for that in the entire group (it was not clear that it should be in the back of every character's playbook), but another problem was (I believe) that up to that point we had imagined our characters and the place they were at that moment, from that to jumping into the creation of a household (after having compiled all the other sheets before), I had really creative fatigue at that point and I crossed items more or less randomply.

So, the three rolls... the first one was the season move "Wealth: Prepare for What’s Coming" (rolled a 12, two bounties, "food" and "security"), then when the townpeople attacked (there was some misunderstanting about the fictional situation there, but we were playing in English in the noise of a Italian convention, it was already a small miracle that we were able to hear each other) used my right to be known by reputation (to try to weaken their resolve) success but no concrete effect, then I tried to jump over their wall of shield but failed. Ezio applied damage as estabilished saying with glee "three" points, and I think I replied with a nasty gesture reminding him that I had 4 points of armor (armor, helmet, shield). After everebody rolled for their next action I did want to fight someone to single combat but Ezio declared it impossible and anyway at that point I did have the driver practically pushing me away from the table...

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Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 01:08:18 AM »
...I replied with a nasty gesture reminding him that I had 4 points of armor (armor, helmet, shield)...

Not that it would have mattered in this instance, but isn't armor, helmet, shield 3 armor?

Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 01:21:54 PM »
Not that it would have mattered in this instance, but isn't armor, helmet, shield 3 armor?

I left the character sheet at the table, so I can't check why I counted 4. I don't remember the points for every item, so all I can do is guess. Maybe (but I am not sure) it was a misreading of the "+1" armor for wealthy characters (my character was wealthy).

Re: [GnoccoCON 2014] Wassershild, the Sea-Devils and Seleukos the Warlord
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 11:01:57 AM »
Hello, guys!
Just adding my two cents, here, to say that I had fun and was really intrigued by AW-Dark Age.
The feeling of impending doom was constant and I really had no idea what could happen the next minute.
Guess that kinda qualifies it as a"as if being there" moment.

I was a little confused by the scenario/setting at first, but as Ezio said, it was mid-afternoon of a long, funny, pork-chugging day, so blame me for that, not the game. Chatting with Ezio at the end of the session and piecing back some of the information I'd lost, made wonders for me. And now I can say I'm in love with the Dark Age environment.

Not as experienced as the other guys at the table with PbA games, but I damn well plan on becoming one.
Look forward to more Dark Age!

- Matteo