Mike and I are chatting it up about this.
Seducing someone, here, means using sex to get them to do what
you want, not (or not just) trying to get them to fuck you.
The above is important. It means that this isn't two rules. There's no real seduction, in the sexual sense, for the sake of sex. It's all manipulation, offering something for something, with the caveat that the something in either case may be sex.
The promise the NPC asks for should directly address the
leverage the player’s character is using. The leverage is sex?
The promise should be sexual. The leverage is violence? “Just
promise you won’t hurt me.”
Here it is. There must be a promise, as stated in the rule.
Before you even get to rolling, you need some leverage. Sex can be that leverage; the NPC can then choose to ask you to promise that, or they can ask you to promise something else.
Yeah. So this:
...has said that they might occasionally say "Yeah, this person isn't interested in you at all, so sex doesn't count as leverage against them, find something else if you want to manipulate them."
...isn't really true, as such.
When you manipulate, tell them what you want.
The leverage comes as part of the manipulation; that's what manipulation means. Then comes the telling of what you want. On a 10, they WILL tell you how to make this possible.
They ask you to promise something first, and do it if you promise.
Very clear. "They... do it if you promise."
Intentional by Baker or not, I like this as written, because it suggests that nothing is totally
off limits. There's an offer, with the manipulate and then the telling, and then there's a counter offer, in the same move. Two points of negotiation: the initial leverage and the possible counteroffer.
And maybe they don't want to do it. Maybe Balls doesn't want to kill his grandmother.
Extreme example, but to that: contextually, if it wasn't possible, why is it being asked? Why are people approaching Balls to ask him to kill his grandmother? Is it arbitrary? Then someone isn't playing the game with everyone else.
And it further suggests that EVERYTHING is on sale, which is something I like.