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brainstorming & development / Re: Lost Worlds Decadent & Dying
« on: May 13, 2017, 05:07:33 AM »
Cool, well, it may be a while but I will have to report on it at some point, or start posting some of the playbooks.
I'm starting to playtest it tomorrow with my group, so, should be fun.  They've been through all kinds of my game experiments at this point over the past... several years now.

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brainstorming & development / Re: Lost Worlds Decadent & Dying
« on: May 11, 2017, 05:06:45 PM »
Thanks for the responses! Some great stuff to think on. I'm torn between modular play and strict classes ultimately. But, this got me thinking: I could have a set of totally premade playbooks, just like AW, then, have a chapter devoted to making their own. That way, players can start off just using playbooks that are already there for them until they are comfortable, or maybe want to try something different, and can customize their own (though experience suggests strongly that a lot of players will want to do this right away, others are going to be stuck if they have to).  I could easily list a bunch of Moves grouped in some manner (different than just Moves by playbook, which IS a way to group them) and some guidelines for how to think about combining them or making their own.
This almost is like those books that have a bunch of pregens, and then rules for "here's how you make your own" in a way.

I'm still not sure which idea I like here though, so, I'm just going to throw players at it and observe what the tendencies are I think for a while.

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brainstorming & development / Re: Lost Worlds Decadent & Dying
« on: May 10, 2017, 07:15:48 PM »
oh, so, I just discovered Uncharted Worlds, it looks like it does something that is at least in the spirit of what I'm going after... well, that is on my list. The concept still looks like it would need a lot of careful testing, but, I'm happy to find something that is headed in the right direction best I can tell.

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brainstorming & development / Re: Lost Worlds Decadent & Dying
« on: May 10, 2017, 07:24:40 AM »
Yeah, that is a thing, and, I guess has to come out during actually playing it largely.

It would be very hard to merge the playbooks and Origins together with the way they are starting to shape up, it would probably end up being better to just go back to ditching having the more typical playbooks all together, and just have superpowers/magic/whatever, but, so far that feels like it isn't the direction this game needs to go (of course, I could change my mind later).

A question: when people start taking Moves from other playbooks as part of their advancement (I've not had a group which did that yet), does it tend to undermine how fun the game is for people in some way?  That seems like a kinda similar concept to me.

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brainstorming & development / Re: The Long Dream - A Rough Sketch
« on: May 10, 2017, 04:37:58 AM »
Settings that blend folkloric elements with more modern trappings, and/or odd anachronisms can be quite appealing. Dark Tower seems like a good choice for inspiration. There's some other Neil Gaiman material that comes to mind as good sources for inspiration for this sort of thing: American Gods, and the Ocean at the End of the Lane.

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brainstorming & development / Lost Worlds Decadent & Dying
« on: May 10, 2017, 04:27:28 AM »
I'm going to be soon running what I hope will become my first long run (as in more than a few sessions) PbtA game, and making it a hack... my very first one. So, very much an experiment (I've released things for Fate in the past, but this is new to me).  I'm both having fun working on it, and finding it frustrating in some ways.

It's a Dying Earth subgenre setting, but, I pull inspiration from a lot of different sources beyond that subgenre's namesake (truth be told, I have only read a little bit of Vance's work by that name, but, am making a point to continue reading more for this, though, I'm not sure I actually want it to become the main inspiration source since there's so many RPGs that take A LOT from it, and many other directions to go with the Dying Earth/Dying Worlds idea.)

Here's the basic premise:

Reality is fraying away at the edges, as entropy wears away at it like waves erode away the shoreline.  The Lost Worlds and the cities of the GodKings remain, and these divine tyrants rule with an iron fist, defining the very nature of the real within their domain.

Into this eroding existence you were born; surrounded by a fantastic and terrifying world beyond your control. But, then a single event changed you; you became as terrifying and wondrous as the world that surrounded you, and saw reality for what it was; a story nearing its end as the candlelight dies. But must it end? Can you continue the tale, and thus reforge the world? What risks will you take to do so? And what will you become in the process?


So, it's about people, who were human (or at least humanish), living in a world where reality is falling apart at the seams, and becoming increasingly weird. Most people can do little about this, except perhaps in large, focused groups, but, your character had an Event happen to them which Changed them. The result is that they become, well, think, mystic mutants of a sort, all capable of doing certain reality warping things via in character narration (reality responds to their storytelling, because it's so degraded the line between reality and fiction is blurred in the setting itself). Their Origin (how they became what they are) further colors particular... superpowers, or magic for lack of a better term. Depending on their usage of their abilities, they may eventually become entropic monsters, or inhuman GodKings.

I'm thinking of having characters created with playbooks much like standard PbtA ones, and then they also pick an Origin, which is basically "what event Changed you?" and that determines how their weirder abilities and traits manifest. It's sort of like a secondary, more simplified playbook that they get to add Moves from, sort of vaguely like how Dungeon World has race specific Moves.
I was actually just going to have the Origin Moves be the only ones (outside the basic ones, and a few others all PCs can use), but, the more I worked on them the more they felt like cool extras that help further define a character (and also emphasise that they walk the path towards becoming increasingly something else), but not really a whole basis for a character on their own. I shall still have to see how it plays out though.

The difference between these Origins and DW's races though is, that, they really are separate from "Class", and there's a list to choose from for each Origin, er... race. This separate race and class thing is very common in other RPGs (it makes me think of templates from D&D), but, I can't think of another PbtA game that does this.  I'm wondering, if this really not "kosher" to do, or is there perhaps another PbtA game that has done this sort of "pick your superpowers from here, but use this for your main Playbook"?

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blood & guts / Re: How many playbooks do I need?
« on: May 09, 2017, 05:12:22 AM »
Main thing is I have 6 players (and an extra that occasionally visits when we have an extra seat open), but... they like to sometimes switch up characters too, which makes it possibly a bigger issue if I really want niche protection.
Anyhow, good to know it isn't like there's some established minimum that there really needs to be beyond maybe 4, and I suppose with a group like this perhaps I'll have to accept some overlap for a while. I'll try not to stress on it.

I'm starting to have more ideas come to mind... wrote another playbook today and realised I could actually go in some very different directions with this than what I was initially thinking.

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blood & guts / How many playbooks do I need?
« on: May 08, 2017, 06:54:16 AM »
Hi all, first time posting here, and, I'm still very new to PbtA, but, I've played Dungeon World, ran a teeny tiny bit of Urban Shadows, and have been reading AW.

I'm starting a PbtA hack, as I really love to work with game systems and build on them, and am going to start running it for my meatspace group soon, I have enough of it functional for them to dive into, but, I'm running into an issue of, AW has soooo many playbooks, to really give enough options for different characters, it seems like I should have a similar number.

I have 7 playbooks mostly nailed down (though I expect them to go through changes), but, that feels like not enough to avoid eventually having a lot of overlap in characters because there's just not that much to choose from.  I can kinda think of a potential number 8 & maybe 9, but, beyond that, really not coming to me for this game.

So, is there an ideal number of playbooks?  Is 7 or even 9 really just not enough variety? Should I be stressing about this?

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